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	<title>Comments on: Yoko Ono: A Feminist Analysis by Cara Kulwicki</title>
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		<title>By: Accomplishment &#171; The Bead Shop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Accomplishment &#171; The Bead Shop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 12:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] very comprehensively a while back in a very sincere series of posts, which Yoko Ono liked enough to link from her own website. You rarely see Yoko Ono&#8217;s CV listed along with her many technical features, the way you do [...]</description>
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		<title>By: sussch</title>
		<link>http://imaginepeace.com/archives/5272/comment-page-1#comment-3097</link>
		<dc:creator>sussch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 04:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm... very interesting take.
I&#039;m very glad that you brought up Bob Spitz&#039;s biography. I just finished it myself. For the first 600 or so pages, I loved it and it&#039;s honesty, but the second they introduced Yoko, I thought: &quot;REALLY? This is a RESPECTED BIOGRAPHER writing?&quot; One very Anti-Yoko moment that you forgot to mention was the description of how, on the day that George H. left the band (temporarily!) due to a dispute, Spitz insinuated that he left because of Yoko. In reality, he left partly because Paul was bossing him around (I&#039;m going to bring that up again in a minute) and partly because those sessions were dismal and the karmic-conscious George wanted his own space (truly the Shy Beatle). Not only does Spitz immediately blame Yoko for this, he claims that not only did she cause this, but that she planned George&#039;s departure entirely! He describes how Yoko, &quot;celebrating her victory,&quot; climbs into George&#039;s seat and wails along while the three remaining Beatles jammed. He claims that Yoko had a tremendous and conniving grin on her face as she was happy that she was now 1/3 of her way closer to completely controlling John.

I don&#039;t usually completely waive an analysis as wrong, but Spitz&#039;s analysis of that situation was just that. First of all, John&#039;s opinion of George hardly changed when George (again, tentatively) left. John clearly forgave him seeing as the aforementioned Mr. Harrison played extensive lead guitar on the Imagine Album. Would it really have helped Yoko&#039;s &quot;master plan&quot; to push away the Beatles, one by one? Spitz clearly ignores that there were obvious cracks showing already. He forgets that John had already distanced himself from the other three. Not even Paul had a real hold on John. Lennon didn&#039;t really like &quot;the other lads&quot; anymore, he was doing it not only for duty, but for the remote possibility of music. Besides, his love was with him- she probably made it endurable!

My &quot;second of all&quot; is that it was a jam session. They weren&#039;t recording a new song. Yoko wasn&#039;t catapulting herself into doing the back-up vocals or anything- it was just a jam. The three Beatles were blowing off steam- their mate had just blown them off, it&#039;s understandable! Yoko was there as a fellow musician and a companion to one of the Beatles, and since she wasn&#039;t hurting them, she had every right to wail along. John seemed to enjoy it, and I have a feeling that he asked her to play with them, if the question should arise, moments before the jam began! And as for her sitting in George&#039;s chair- I&#039;m sure it was closest. When watching the Let it Be scenes filmed at Twickenham, George sat right next to John. There should be no reason for her to find another one just to avoid symbolism.

And lastly, Bob Spitz (aside from meeting Paul and George once, as insinuated in the Endnotes) didn&#039;t really know the Beatles. He got some information, true, but it doesn&#039;t seem that he relied on the first-hand accounts of the major surviving players (i.e. Paul, Ringo, George Martin, Yoko herself). This is what I love about the Philip Norman biography of John that just came out- Norman sat down with Yoko for months getting the truth out of her, had a lengthy coffee shop interview with Sean, and even got a few emails out of Macca! Bob Spitz relies heavily on the Anthology and, sadly, on Albert Goldman&#039;s disgraceful &quot;biography&quot; on John (in which he fabricates nearly all of the information). But most glaringly is the fact that BOB SPITZ WAS NOT AT THE RECORDING SESSION WHEN GEORGE HARRISON LEFT. What gives him the right to automatically place himself there and to decide exactly how Yoko&#039;s face looked as she sat in the chair, singing? He doesn&#039;t even quote anyone in that paragraph. Just shameful.

Well, that&#039;s all I have to say about that &quot;Yoko takes the reins in a jam session!!!&quot; incident. I do have one quick comment about Paul, though: You seem to blame him a couple times. While I will be the first to agree that, misogynist-wise, Paul was about as bad as John, people are very quick to bring up the fact that &quot;John turned around for Yoko,&quot; when even you yourself admitted that John couldn&#039;t stop cheating. You also admit that Paul treated Linda quite well, but admitting that Linda was (sort of) Paul&#039;s answer to John&#039;s Yoko contradicts what you say earlier about Paul &quot;being the bad guy.&quot; And while this is a tiny bit off subject, Linda got her share of crap, too. Perhaps not as bad as Yoko, but a popular 70&#039;s joke was &quot;What do you call a cow with Wings? Linda McCartney.&quot; And had she not sadly died of cancer (which seems to automatically give a person saint-like status, which may be wrong but in her case she deserved some nice press), there would definitely be some &quot;Linda is an ugly whore who sucked the life out of Paul&quot; groups on facebook. I&#039;m not implying that that scenario would be as bad as what Yoko deals with, but I am saying that Yoko wasn&#039;t the only abused Beatle wife.

Anyway, sorry for the lengthy comment. As an avid Beatle fan, I&#039;m extremely interested in trying to learn more about the souls of the men who created all those great songs- and fortunately, even as I learn more and more of how mean they were in real life, the music remains fantastic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230; very interesting take.<br />
I&#8217;m very glad that you brought up Bob Spitz&#8217;s biography. I just finished it myself. For the first 600 or so pages, I loved it and it&#8217;s honesty, but the second they introduced Yoko, I thought: &#8220;REALLY? This is a RESPECTED BIOGRAPHER writing?&#8221; One very Anti-Yoko moment that you forgot to mention was the description of how, on the day that George H. left the band (temporarily!) due to a dispute, Spitz insinuated that he left because of Yoko. In reality, he left partly because Paul was bossing him around (I&#8217;m going to bring that up again in a minute) and partly because those sessions were dismal and the karmic-conscious George wanted his own space (truly the Shy Beatle). Not only does Spitz immediately blame Yoko for this, he claims that not only did she cause this, but that she planned George&#8217;s departure entirely! He describes how Yoko, &#8220;celebrating her victory,&#8221; climbs into George&#8217;s seat and wails along while the three remaining Beatles jammed. He claims that Yoko had a tremendous and conniving grin on her face as she was happy that she was now 1/3 of her way closer to completely controlling John.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t usually completely waive an analysis as wrong, but Spitz&#8217;s analysis of that situation was just that. First of all, John&#8217;s opinion of George hardly changed when George (again, tentatively) left. John clearly forgave him seeing as the aforementioned Mr. Harrison played extensive lead guitar on the Imagine Album. Would it really have helped Yoko&#8217;s &#8220;master plan&#8221; to push away the Beatles, one by one? Spitz clearly ignores that there were obvious cracks showing already. He forgets that John had already distanced himself from the other three. Not even Paul had a real hold on John. Lennon didn&#8217;t really like &#8220;the other lads&#8221; anymore, he was doing it not only for duty, but for the remote possibility of music. Besides, his love was with him- she probably made it endurable!</p>
<p>My &#8220;second of all&#8221; is that it was a jam session. They weren&#8217;t recording a new song. Yoko wasn&#8217;t catapulting herself into doing the back-up vocals or anything- it was just a jam. The three Beatles were blowing off steam- their mate had just blown them off, it&#8217;s understandable! Yoko was there as a fellow musician and a companion to one of the Beatles, and since she wasn&#8217;t hurting them, she had every right to wail along. John seemed to enjoy it, and I have a feeling that he asked her to play with them, if the question should arise, moments before the jam began! And as for her sitting in George&#8217;s chair- I&#8217;m sure it was closest. When watching the Let it Be scenes filmed at Twickenham, George sat right next to John. There should be no reason for her to find another one just to avoid symbolism.</p>
<p>And lastly, Bob Spitz (aside from meeting Paul and George once, as insinuated in the Endnotes) didn&#8217;t really know the Beatles. He got some information, true, but it doesn&#8217;t seem that he relied on the first-hand accounts of the major surviving players (i.e. Paul, Ringo, George Martin, Yoko herself). This is what I love about the Philip Norman biography of John that just came out- Norman sat down with Yoko for months getting the truth out of her, had a lengthy coffee shop interview with Sean, and even got a few emails out of Macca! Bob Spitz relies heavily on the Anthology and, sadly, on Albert Goldman&#8217;s disgraceful &#8220;biography&#8221; on John (in which he fabricates nearly all of the information). But most glaringly is the fact that BOB SPITZ WAS NOT AT THE RECORDING SESSION WHEN GEORGE HARRISON LEFT. What gives him the right to automatically place himself there and to decide exactly how Yoko&#8217;s face looked as she sat in the chair, singing? He doesn&#8217;t even quote anyone in that paragraph. Just shameful.</p>
<p>Well, that&#8217;s all I have to say about that &#8220;Yoko takes the reins in a jam session!!!&#8221; incident. I do have one quick comment about Paul, though: You seem to blame him a couple times. While I will be the first to agree that, misogynist-wise, Paul was about as bad as John, people are very quick to bring up the fact that &#8220;John turned around for Yoko,&#8221; when even you yourself admitted that John couldn&#8217;t stop cheating. You also admit that Paul treated Linda quite well, but admitting that Linda was (sort of) Paul&#8217;s answer to John&#8217;s Yoko contradicts what you say earlier about Paul &#8220;being the bad guy.&#8221; And while this is a tiny bit off subject, Linda got her share of crap, too. Perhaps not as bad as Yoko, but a popular 70&#8242;s joke was &#8220;What do you call a cow with Wings? Linda McCartney.&#8221; And had she not sadly died of cancer (which seems to automatically give a person saint-like status, which may be wrong but in her case she deserved some nice press), there would definitely be some &#8220;Linda is an ugly whore who sucked the life out of Paul&#8221; groups on facebook. I&#8217;m not implying that that scenario would be as bad as what Yoko deals with, but I am saying that Yoko wasn&#8217;t the only abused Beatle wife.</p>
<p>Anyway, sorry for the lengthy comment. As an avid Beatle fan, I&#8217;m extremely interested in trying to learn more about the souls of the men who created all those great songs- and fortunately, even as I learn more and more of how mean they were in real life, the music remains fantastic!</p>
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		<title>By: Tay</title>
		<link>http://imaginepeace.com/archives/5272/comment-page-1#comment-3078</link>
		<dc:creator>Tay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic. i have been saying a sense of what you said for years. well written and a wonderful read. cheers</description>
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		<title>By: Friday Hoyden: Yoko Ono &#8212; Hoyden About Town</title>
		<link>http://imaginepeace.com/archives/5272/comment-page-1#comment-2685</link>
		<dc:creator>Friday Hoyden: Yoko Ono &#8212; Hoyden About Town</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the need to reach out to me about it. And it was an additional honor when she felt compelled to reproduce the entire series at her own website, Imagine Peace. I hope you like it, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the need to reach out to me about it. And it was an additional honor when she felt compelled to reproduce the entire series at her own website, Imagine Peace. I hope you like it, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Diana Pozo</title>
		<link>http://imaginepeace.com/archives/5272/comment-page-1#comment-2669</link>
		<dc:creator>Diana Pozo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A friend of mine sent me this link because she knows that I have the Yoko conversation regularly with all kinds of people... I just can&#039;t let it go when people dis, what can I say?

To Yoko, thanks for my dad, who made me a fan and keeps me remembering that men and women don&#039;t have to be enemies. I love you!

To Cara, wow. Glad you wrote this and not me, because I wouldn&#039;t have been nearly as thorough and well-researched, as well as eloquent of course. Dude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend of mine sent me this link because she knows that I have the Yoko conversation regularly with all kinds of people&#8230; I just can&#8217;t let it go when people dis, what can I say?</p>
<p>To Yoko, thanks for my dad, who made me a fan and keeps me remembering that men and women don&#8217;t have to be enemies. I love you!</p>
<p>To Cara, wow. Glad you wrote this and not me, because I wouldn&#8217;t have been nearly as thorough and well-researched, as well as eloquent of course. Dude.</p>
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		<title>By: Alison</title>
		<link>http://imaginepeace.com/archives/5272/comment-page-1#comment-2614</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting this.  It is a great read.</description>
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		<title>By: John Ozed</title>
		<link>http://imaginepeace.com/archives/5272/comment-page-1#comment-2610</link>
		<dc:creator>John Ozed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Yoko. I read this originally via the Examiner and liked it so much I posted the installments on my Facebook page as well as plugging it on my blog. Hope you are well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Yoko. I read this originally via the Examiner and liked it so much I posted the installments on my Facebook page as well as plugging it on my blog. Hope you are well.</p>
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		<title>By: The Global Village &#171; I Am Not Cake</title>
		<link>http://imaginepeace.com/archives/5272/comment-page-1#comment-2607</link>
		<dc:creator>The Global Village &#171; I Am Not Cake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For example: Cara at The Curvature posted yesterday to say that Yoko Ono had emailed her to thank Cara for her essay, and has republished it on her own site. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For example: Cara at The Curvature posted yesterday to say that Yoko Ono had emailed her to thank Cara for her essay, and has republished it on her own site. [...]</p>
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